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Post new path for brain chemcial reality?
was in whats unt natural string did think this deserved its owen thing becuse this are start to get of topic and more philosphy thing then what we did begin whit

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There is this popular image that science with great effort is going to climb the big mountain of knowledge an when they reach the peak there will be some religious guy waiting for them saying "Told you so". To me this is just dumb. There is nothing like science, there is no way one can know as much about anything as one can with science, anything. Biotech is going to make people live and think for a thousand years. It will explain the inner workings of your brain. It answers the question of your origin by reading the dna you actually carry. How can this be compared to the ideas of say some guy in a loincloth making shit up in a cave? Or some king 1400 years ago, or some son of a carpenter in the roman provinces 2000 years ago. What did they know?



maybe the will be more in terretory of taz hamik bey (http://www.hermetic.com/bey/taz3.html#labelTAZ) abut constrcut you owen thing since alle philsophy get be what netzche said a footnote to platon? and platon was just a crative criticel thinking guy that did notn have acces to brain chemcial r&d and internet forums
(but ratinoalsim and the whole aritotels thing will also be bullshit... we will be the same place as kirkegaard was abut existensalims and belive in god or what hobbes and russoa wrote but are hard to read now becuse they are so sucked into the matrix of god and religon

but mayeb epicure and stotics will be the new things ?(do what you want and just change yourself?)

yes jesus was just a bunch of lsd guys that would today but in mental hospitals (they put ppl that belive they are god ther...) not more credibilty the the bill o reailys rant or old layds next door gosspi

that kind was probely just a fantatic psykopat (and waht are the diffrence between the new sect and old religon all same thing?)

the matrix movie will be the new think of perciption?


Sat May 16, 2009 10:37 pm
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Post Re: new path for brain chemcial reality?
Philosophy is difficult for me. I tend to get into the discussion where someone says philosophy explains the world. And I say 'No, biology does, the reasons this person is thinking about this as opposed to something else are biological'. And the obvious retort is 'See, that belief is a philosophical one'... and on it goes.

I don't know, to me it seems that philosophers fail miserably when they try to explain existence. Most of them haven't seemed capable of handling their personal lives or the context they live in.

I like the science philosophers better, Popper being the obvious one. There is also an un ortodox guy Ken Wilber. I don't subscribe to most of his ideas but he has one valid one I think: That human ventures have similarities. An example would be; if you want to learn martial arts, first study them all to get an idea of what constitutes martial art, what aspects it consists of. Then observe how different martial arts approach each aspect and then learn each aspect from the best source. I think Wilber spends a lot of time in a new age-ish zone, so there is a lot of overhead. And he is sometimes trying to impose an ill fitting map on the territory. But I enjoy his punkish attitude. A few years ago he wrote an open letter to his critics informing them that they could suck his dick. Literally.

I sometimes feel that philosophy can be a forum where people entertain biological glitches. The first time I heard the story of Epiktetus it seemed like a story of one upmanship to me. Epiktetus was greek slave in rome. He was not free but created a memespace(memeplex) where he was more free that his owners. The moral high ground theme. Once he let his master break his arm to prove his point. Maybe it's just me, but I think a big part of the appeal of the stoics is the one upmaship. Which is a biological glitch.

Derren Brown would have made use of the romans glitches and made him go break his own arm.

The one upmanship glitch is interesting. There is another glitch which makes us feel bad if we perceive that our life doesn't have meaning. Killing god feels great but afterwards we feel a bit depressed. The idea that evolution built us without reason or goal and that we are alone in the universe on our own, going nowhere, responsible for ourselves can feel like shit. But if your neighbor is a jesus freak you can have endless discussions with him where you oneup him cause you're right and he is an idiot... and that makes you feel great again.

It's like we're a rocket of flesh with a big booster engine giving us forward momentum while we have these tiny steering rockets going off on all sides deciding the direction. The tiny steering rockets are our emotions, some of them are irrational and called glitches.

A lot of the philosophy of existence seems to me to be preoccupied with those glitches.

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Tue May 19, 2009 8:35 am
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Post Re: new path for brain chemcial reality?
too samrt to live in the conetext from your point of wiew.. backj to matrix agin ,'> maybe thats why they are pilosphers in the first place..(

biliogy glitych .... wjhat you mean
yhe upmanship mayeb what i talk abut good ppl that have iq your difrent whyt pretend that what other ppl think or do matters to you

commen sens are most ppl nonsens netizhe said
yes much pilosphy are just maping on what brain chemcial eh kits can do in the future but we need themn to make fine tuned drugs btw as you said some ppl will be nutes they will probely eh make ther owen taz


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Post Re: new path for brain chemcial reality?
kluss wrote:
too samrt to live in the conetext from your point of wiew.. backj to matrix agin ,'> maybe thats why they are pilosphers in the first place..(

They are claiming an expertise of the inner workings of the world. Seems to me that world also includes the context they live in. It's like the story of the man who was teaching a class on how to succeed in the stock market when a rural character raised his hand and asked him “Are you rich?”

kluss wrote:
biliogy glitych .... wjhat you mean

Glitch is an actual word.

kluss wrote:
yhe upmanship mayeb what i talk abut good ppl that have iq your difrent whyt pretend that what other ppl think or do matters to you

When I talked about one-upmanship I meant the glitch. A glitch is not useful or productive, it's more a knee jerk reaction. Deliberately choosing not to listen to everyone as a means of filtering information is something else.

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