rallodc45 wrote:
I've always associated punk with having a rebellious nature towards towards authority and mainstream culture (certain aspects anyway).
That's well put I think. Punk is subversive, nonconformist.
I do like artful subversiveness though. Like when Daniel Dennet asks religious leaders if they are ok with all kids taking a test on the bare basics of all major religions. That would entail how many followers, where they live and what they believe.
As Daniel Dennet explained “They(the religious leaders) are all for it, but they know they hate it”. He also said it doesn't matter if they tell the kid this is the devils work and the only reason he/she has to learn is because they will be tested on it. It will work anyway.
This is being artfully subversive.
On one of Henry Rollins spoken word albums('Human butt' maybe?) there is a talk called 'The Decorator'. The Henry Rollins decorator is a person who doesn't get what he wants, doesn't really leave a mark on the world around him but makes a lot of noise while passing through it. He in a sense decorates the world around him with anger and attitude without accomplishing anything. Except decoration.
I think sometimes people confuse being subversive with being a decorator.
Loud decorating action is wonderful in it's own right though.
Darwin gave it to us to use as a drug.
- Splicer